The headers will add more "visual performance" and probably a new "audio" experience as well as power.

Come to think of it, I don't listen to my stereo much anymore. I prefer hearing my vehicle.

Isn't that silly?

Silly to some people is normal.

Alright guys, thanks to another member's sales pitch last night, the wife gave the go light! Now, I'm pretty set on the headers, despite having to wait, but wanted to hear any other thoughts on the tb before I put my order in. I know I'll have the additional cost of better gaskets (Mopar) and locking header bolts, but, anything else I should think about?

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You know my thoughts.... eco friendly dude.. just sayin

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about the locking header bolts. You won't be able to put one on every bolt anyways, there's not much room to work in there.

Well....probably shouldn't mention this, but there's a fastman 85mm tb nib on RF for 175 bucks this morning.

Yeah, I saw that but his design has caused some trouble codes to pop for some fourth gen guys.

Interesting...I'm not a fan of his 2nd gen stuff...halving throttle shafts may be ok for racing apps. Not for street use.
I'm pretty sure it'll sell.

Just saw that Moe's came out with an 87mm throttle body...

Apparently the issue for the 4th gen Fastman design is that the throttle body is bored the same diameter the entire way, leaving a gap around the butterfly at idle. This causes a CEL to pop up and I don't want that. Moe's has theirs designed so that it tapers down to stock diameter at the valve so there are no gaps. This uses the Bernoulli effect that made that tapered intake so popular (can't think of its name right now.)