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LowRam 02-06-2012 04:03 PM

system help..
 
alright this is in my tahoe but I thought id see what yall thought i built a wall with two 18" MA subs there dual 4 and ive got a pyramid 3000 watt amp pushing them.

the amp keeps kicking off and going into protect mode if turned up very loud. my first though was maybe it under powered so i thru a second battery under the hood and still the same thing i dont think the second batt helped at all...

anyone else have any thoughts? id like to solve this system issue so i can move on th my dodge system set up

DoubleTakeDodge 02-06-2012 04:14 PM

First thing I would do is check all the fuses associated w/ the amp. My inline fuse melted and wasn't getting a good connection and used to do that.

LowRam 02-06-2012 04:17 PM

the fuse thats in the amp its self or fuse thats on the 0 gauge between amp and battery?

DoubleTakeDodge 02-06-2012 04:21 PM

Both. Mine was on my power wire between the battery and amp. But occasionally when a fuse blows it can melt the leads inside the fuse and once in a blue moon those melted leads fuse back together but don't carry enough current.

LowRam 02-06-2012 04:26 PM

alright be cause on my 0 gauge ive got a kicker fuse block holds a 300amp fues then im not sure about whats in the amp its self..

im wondering now if maybe i could have possibly wired the amp down to a lower ohm then it can handle... its 2ohm stable amp.. ill post a diagram how ive wired it maybe that could be my problem idk how all the ohm and taking ohms down work...

DoubleTakeDodge 02-06-2012 04:30 PM

Yeah, me either. I'm really good with installation and stuff like that but I refer to others on all the technical stuff.

LowRam 02-06-2012 04:30 PM

Heres how its wired except its bridged at the amp..

LowRam 02-06-2012 04:30 PM

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...e/1fa0c630.jpg

DoubleTakeDodge 02-06-2012 04:33 PM

Each sub running at 4ohms on a 2 ohm amp? Wish I knew how to help but that's a little over my head, sorry man

LowRam 02-06-2012 04:47 PM

Thanks anyways bud. I figured matt on here would know hes got knowledge on this i believe im thinking that with my amp bridge and subs haveing wires ran this way im probably trying to get a lower than 2ohm and its not made for that so im thinking i need to do this in stead...
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...e/7f04717f.jpg

DoubleTakeDodge 02-06-2012 06:15 PM

2 channel amp or mono??

LowRam 02-06-2012 06:34 PM

2 channel

DoubleTakeDodge 02-06-2012 06:39 PM

Have you tried bridging the subs instead of runnin em each on their own channel??

ramthis9501 02-06-2012 08:20 PM

Yeah I'm not an expert on the ohms but I'm pretty sure you can't run 2 ohms into a 4 ohm sub. Way to much impedence going into the subs so the amp is shutting off so your subs wont blow up. The second way to wire them that you posted would probably be better, but like I said Im not an expert by any means when it comes to technical stuff. Im better with installation.

DoubleTakeDodge 02-06-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramthis9501 (Post 9948)
but like I said Im not an expert by any means when it comes to technical stuff. Im better with installation.

same here. i can make an install look perfect, but google is a better bet on technical stuff tan i am

Matt 02-06-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRam (Post 9930)
alright be cause on my 0 gauge ive got a kicker fuse block holds a 300amp fues then im not sure about whats in the amp its self..

im wondering now if maybe i could have possibly wired the amp down to a lower ohm then it can handle... its 2ohm stable amp.. ill post a diagram how ive wired it maybe that could be my problem idk how all the ohm and taking ohms down work...

what is the model of the amp? are you SURE it's a 2 ch just bc it has 2 sets of connections doesn't mean it's a 2 channel


Quote:

Originally Posted by ramthis9501 (Post 9948)
Yeah I'm not an expert on the ohms but I'm pretty sure you can't run 2 ohms into a 4 ohm sub. Way to much impedence going into the subs so the amp is shutting off so your subs wont blow up. The second way to wire them that you posted would probably be better, but like I said Im not an expert by any means when it comes to technical stuff. Im better with installation.


lol you have kind of a right idea but nothing you said is actually right lol

Matt 02-06-2012 10:33 PM

it sounds like you have a mono amp and you are trying to run it at 1 ohm with the 2 dvc4 ohm subs in parallel which would make all the sense in the world to why it's kicking off ... plus most big amps are class d mono amps wayyyy more efficient and cheaper to build vs a class ab 2 channel -- roughly 2-4x more expensive so like i said i bet it's a mono

LowRam 02-06-2012 10:36 PM

Lol well matt i got it figured out i ran it the way i put on here the second time and it works fine sounds awesome and pounds!!! :-)

Yes it is a two channel amp, with it being a two channel and me having the subs hooked up the way the first diagram shows except the amp was bridged unlike in the first diagram i beleive i was probably trying to run my amp at to low of an ohm

Matt 02-06-2012 10:38 PM

what's the model number?

ramthis9501 02-06-2012 10:41 PM

I tried lol

Matt 02-06-2012 11:21 PM

let me know when you really want to send some power to those subs ... i've got an amp that'll do it

LowRam 02-07-2012 09:59 AM

where you located and what kind of amp. id like to let you hear it. on hard hitting songs like "on my level" and "Put on" i hear a weird noise i believe its coming from one of the subs but im not 100% sure on it it could be something on the wall that i might be over looking....

LowRam 02-07-2012 10:00 AM

it sounds almost like a squeek noise when the sub hits its hardest is when its heard.

Matt 02-07-2012 01:29 PM

kind of hard to tell without hearing it obviously it could be several things .. and i have a true 3k rms amp that's STOUT and a matching 4 channel


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