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myoung84 11-13-2011 11:12 PM

Thinking of buying a Cummins...
 
Since I now have a company car and will not be driving the truck to and from work or fetching the weekly groceries,I am thinking about buying a 2500 4x4 Cummins... I have always wanted this truck but never bought one because of the amount of miles I drive and the stop and go driving everyday to work. The only times it will get driven is on trips when the company car is not practical or if I need to tow or haul something. It will get most it's miles in the summer dragging the boat around. I really don't need it, but it's something I have always wanted and now I'm confident I'm not going to be rough on engine with short grocery trips.

This is still 6+ months away,but I am already starting to plan and get excited. I have already started the wife approval process and she hasn't completely bashed the idea,so I'm off to a good start... I have already decided on a white 4x4 Crew cab short bed. The biggest decision I have to make is whether to buy new or used. The biggest determining factor will be warranty coverage on a used truck. I'm can't say I won't mod the truck,but the drive train will remain stock.

ramthis9501 11-13-2011 11:25 PM

Awesome man, imo get a used 05 or 06 with the 5.9. The new ones with the 6.7's just don't get as good mileage. Plus there are endless amounts of things you can do to the 5.9

myoung84 11-13-2011 11:29 PM

It will be a 6.7, got to have a 4th gen... I know I said I would have my truck for a long time, but if I get the Cummins I really want I won't be trading it any time soon.

(S.M.R) 101 11-13-2011 11:35 PM

that would be tits dude... After the let down at the dealer it left me in no hurry to deal with it again..... But I have the itch to get one..

Good luck buddy

myoung84 11-13-2011 11:42 PM

I hope to start dealing this summer maybe, but not in a huge rush. I will most likely go with a new 2012 SLT 4x4 2500 crew cab but may consider a mega cab... I would like to see what they do with the 2013s before I make a final decision...

Matt 11-14-2011 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramthis9501 (Post 6766)
Awesome man, imo get a used 05 or 06 with the 5.9. The new ones with the 6.7's just don't get as good mileage. Plus there are endless amounts of things you can do to the 5.9

you and these 5.9's what is it that you think you can't do with a 6.7? and without the dpf shit on it they get great fuel mileage


i'm in the same boat been toying around a 4th gen cummins mega cab tho

(S.M.R) 101 11-14-2011 01:55 AM

I think his point was that the 6.7 does have the dpf and by deleting in will cause a voided warranty.. which I don't think you would want in a damn near 50 grand truck.. so until you hit 100K you would have to deal with the dpf

but that would be the first thing to go if I got a 4th gen 6.7... Voided Warranty or not :D

Matt 11-14-2011 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (S.M.R) 101 (Post 6780)
I think his point was that the 6.7 does have the dpf and by deleting in will cause a voided warranty.. which I don't think you would want in a damn near 50 grand truck.. so until you hit 100K you would have to deal with the dpf

but that would be the first thing to go if I got a 4th gen 6.7... Voided Warranty or not :D

even with the dpf the mileage is a big increase over a hemi especially in the applications he will be using it in, and since morgan is going to leave the drivetrain stock it doesn't matter what things you can do to "hop" one up


i agree with you though the first thing i would do is yank the dpf on my personal truck, put a good tuner on it, straight pipe exhaust or some nice white trash stacks and be done with it lol

ramthis9501 11-14-2011 10:17 AM

Sorry... guess I'm just a 5.9 junkie lol

MegaCabMan 11-14-2011 11:02 AM

Now yall are talking my language! If you want a truck to mod on and what not better think real hard about getting a 3 gen or a high mileage 4th with no warranty. Because it is real hard to swallow voiding your warranty on such an expensive truck. And if you did go ahead and void the warranty, think about the ass eating your wife will give you if you need to have warranty work done, but cant. Injectors are about $1500 each and are usually the first casualty of a tuner.

But with that said I am real happy with the performance of my un-modded 6.7--mileage isn't great but it is better than a gasser. Right now, according to the computer I am getting 14.5 MPG mixed driving (80% Hwy). I never got better than about 12mpg in my '06 Hemi Mega. As far as pulling a boat with the diesel, if you pulled it with your 1500 gasser, you wont even know its back there with the 2500 diesel.

I found that typically September and October are the best months to buy a car or truck. If you shop around a lot you can find what you want for the most part. Every dealer I went to said "If we don't have it, we can find one for you." And that is true to some degree BUT know that they aren't looking at the inventory on lots that are close. For example, Bob Howard in Edmond said that the closest truck that matched my requirements was in Texas...I found one in El Reno that I ended up buying. My guess is that dealers aren't allowed to pull from inventory on lots that are competitors. So Tulsa dealers probably wont look in OKC for a match and certainly wont look in Tulsa. The caveat is if the dealers are owned by the same company/person.

For my .02 I am real happy with the service that I get from Frontier Dodge. On the sales end of things they didn't jerk with me at all. The price on the truck came it right on the money, but the offer on my trade was $1000 too low. I told them I needed another $1000 to make the deal and it was oked immediately...It didn't take more than 20 minutes to negotiate the deal. I probibly could have got them to come off the price another grand if I had gone home to think about it. But in the end I didn't get the truck for a steal but I didn't get wallet raped either. On the service/shop end of things, I haven't had any warranty work done (knock on wood) except for a few recall items. But I do go there every 5000 miles and get the oil changed for $9.95! (no that's not a typeo, they only charge $9.95 to change the oil on any Dodge or Chrysler including Diesels) I'll give them first shot at my business when I'm ready for my next new car or truck.

myoung84 11-14-2011 12:25 PM

September-October is probably the time frame I am looking at. I will have had my truck for 3 years at that point. I am looking at SLT's but if I am going to keep it for more than 3 years like I normally do, I want something I can live with for a long time. I want get my my dream truck and actually keep it for 10 years. That being said, I am now considering a Laramie as well. I actually like the Outdoorsman with painted bumpers but can't seem to find any in stock to get good pictures.

Frontier has a very nice selection. Here are links to what I would want on a Laramie and SLT. It's not a real big jump in price between the 2.

http://www.frontierdodge.com/vehicle...spx?id=8130677

http://www.frontierdodge.com/vehicle...spx?id=8082409

What gears do you have in yours? I'm thinking the 3.73s or even 3.42s will be good for me and keep MPG up a little. I am thinking a Crew Cab with 3.42s might be able to get 17 or so on the highway.

myoung84 11-14-2011 12:28 PM

I this is my goal, a mild lift and 35's.

http://www.topguncustomz.com/G2Galle...0/IMG_5036.jpg

(S.M.R) 101 11-14-2011 01:31 PM

That is a bad ass truck Morgan

OklaHemi 11-14-2011 10:49 PM

I'm ctd dreaming too but for a 3rd gen megacab Laramie. Yes please

myoung84 11-15-2011 09:48 AM

I am just too spoiled with my truck to go back to a 3rd gen. I love the front end of the 4th gen HD.

Matt 11-15-2011 10:01 AM

agreed

myoung84 11-15-2011 12:49 PM

I was browsing the Cummins forums and found exactly what I want. This one is actually for sale for $37k...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b.../2010dodge.jpg

ramthis9501 11-15-2011 12:59 PM

Cool wheels!

myoung84 11-15-2011 02:23 PM

The wheels are nice, but I probably won't be buying new ones for a while. I am thinking stock wheels PD'd with some 33's... But overall, that's the truck I want. Just a basic SLT in white or maybe mineral gray. I looked at a Laramie today at the local dealer and it stickered at $54k, not sure if I want to spend that much...

MegaCabMan 11-16-2011 09:42 AM

Wrong Frontier... It's Frontier Dodge in El Reno, OK
And they have a lot better prices too.


Here is a Mega for $48k
http://www.frontiermotor.net/new/Ram...98f18659d2.htm

myoung84 11-16-2011 10:06 AM

Damn! I'll have to bookmark that dealer! That's a lot of money off of a 2012.

BMRbrnSNRbrd 11-16-2011 11:00 AM

Morgan, stay away from white...I thought my white one would look so cool before I bought it and after six months I hated it. It just feels so bland compared to everything else. Mineral Gray gets my vote.

myoung84 11-16-2011 11:17 AM

I'm about 60/40 on white/MG. None of the other colors really thrill me. Definitely don't want black on a truck that will get used as a truck. My wife wants white too and if that's what it takes to get my new truck, then white it is.:D She wanted me to get white on my last truck but I ended up with inferno red. I love the look of a white truck on some meaty tires with black rims though, but I do need to buy something that I will like for a long while, since I actually want to keep this one more than 2-3 years...

ramthis9501 11-16-2011 11:25 AM

I do agree with Dave on the mineral gray over white but that's just me. Guess whatever gets the wife's approval is what wins haha

Matt 11-16-2011 01:29 PM

i've had almost any color truck there is and black is my favorite but my next truck will probably be white with a ton of black accents but i agree stock or with chrome wheels they look plain as shit and look like a fleet truck ...

i want something like this ...

http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/a...ricanflag2.jpg

my old tahoe ...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68...e/IMG_0056.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68...e/IMG_0168.jpg

MegaCabMan 11-16-2011 01:39 PM

sorry I forgot...I have 3.73's

myoung84 11-16-2011 01:55 PM

I have always liked that ram. I don't want to go that big but do something similar...

(S.M.R) 101 11-16-2011 02:46 PM

Ehh just go with silver... It's in between white and mineral grey.... You get the best of both worlds :D

myoung84 11-16-2011 02:58 PM

Lol. I still have plenty of time to decide...

ramthis9501 11-16-2011 03:23 PM

Very good point Kyle! Lol

BMRbrnSNRbrd 11-16-2011 03:40 PM

I still can't believe Dave got rid of that truck...

Matt 11-16-2011 04:03 PM

who's dave? lol ramhunter?

(S.M.R) 101 11-16-2011 06:08 PM

^^ yes

Matt 11-16-2011 06:31 PM

that truck is sooo sick and i would love to have exactly it but a different camper shell

0212353 11-16-2011 11:05 PM

Yeah, that old Mega was freakin' awesome. But........a pig. I haven't ridden in his CTD yet, but I'm sure I'll pee a little when he gets on it.

OklaHemi 11-17-2011 08:28 PM

best argument for a 4th gen ive come across so far
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/a...k/P1030141.jpg


3rd gen rebuttal
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/a...k/IMG_0044.jpg

ramthis9501 11-17-2011 09:08 PM

I'm sorry but I'd still take the 3rd gen... I just love that body style

BMRbrnSNRbrd 11-17-2011 09:30 PM

That 4th gen makes me feel naughty...

myoung84 11-17-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMRbrnSNRbrd (Post 6887)
That 4th gen makes me feel naughty...

I agree!:worship:

DoubleTakeDodge 11-18-2011 01:33 AM

Gotta go with Colton.. I'd rather drive a third gen. Just partial to the body styling


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