Billet Technology Oil Catch Can updates
I'm going to make this a constantly updated thread for the next six months to a year, depending on interest.
There are a lot of non-believers when it comes to oil catch cans and their effectiveness and use...I have no stake in anything regarding BT, but I'm aiming to disprove the rumors that it does nothing. Today is DAY 1: Starting mileage: 15280 http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...8-06204036.jpg Number of miles on this clean out: 3228 http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...8-06203025.jpg Empty 16oz water bottle: http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...8-06202827.jpg Can: http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...8-06202816.jpg Oil in the bottle: http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...8-06202948.jpg Stay tuned for updates! |
I'll be watching this one
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Pardon my ignorance...
But I've seen this mod over on GPMM and also have heard whispered discussions about Hemi engines breathing thier own oil (thus the need for a catch can). I'd love some schooling on this mod if you wouldn't mind. Especially why Mopar designed the PCV system like this in the first place. It looks like a lot of oil...like my old van with 300k miles pumping it through the breather hose. My van had an excuse. |
yuck you are making me want to get one
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Dodge did this for emissions and emissions only. WAYYY back in the day (like before any of us were around) there used to be little tubes that would just let this condensed oil drip onto the ground as needed, but that's not something anyone can do anymore.
What this setup does is put a two chamber can in line between the PCV valve and the throttle body. The top chamber, where both hoses connect, has a filament inside similar to steel wool. The steel wool allows the vapors to condense and then drop down into the second chamber (that you see me holding) for collection. I figured this was a joke until seeing pics of an LX Hemi opened up for a cam/head swap and all the oil everywhere it shouldn't be. I ordered one, installed it, and instantly picked up a hand calculated .5 mpg increase and the comfort of knowing that my truck is no longer breathing it's own oil. |
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Normally....proper valve cover baffling keeps you from sucking in large amounts of oil through unless your crankcase pressure is high. That used to occur from worn rings, and when the system got overun, it pumped it elsewhere...usually out a gasket. I haven't studied a new Hemi closely, but one thing I noticed is that the valve covers are almost non existent. Since there's little room for baffling I'd bet your pcv vacum does indeed pick up more "oil fog" from inside the valve cover than it should. I'd say the engineers goofed... digesting oil causes pinging and unless internal materials have changed it will plug your catalytic converter quicker. I'm suprised JC Whitney or someone else didn't think of this sooner for high mileage cars. |
Thanks for that info bud.
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That doesn't seem like a lot of oil to me. When the plenum gasket in my truck was blown I could go through a quart of oil in 3000 miles no sweat. THAT was an oily mess!
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That was the same with me
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So your truck only uses a couple 3 oz of oil in 3228 miles right? If a qt of oil is 32 oz then figurativly speaking...it would take almost 32,000 miles to use a ful qt or about 16k for a half qt of oil.
Is this small amount of oil really forming a larger deposit someplace it shouldn't...and where? What is the long term problem of this. My truck still gets some oil in the plenum...it has 138k on it. Not blobs and puddles like when my gasket was blown but I can see it in a dirty splotchy film. Mind you, I'm only asking for information. |
I'm ordering the Moroso one as soon as I can afford it!
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How much does one of those run?
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They are just shy of 150, the Moroso one on Jegs is 145.99
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I installed my CC at my last oil change and it's due for another this weekend. I have been saving the oil from the can in a bottle and will post pics of how much I catch in my 6000 mile oil change interval. I think I'm about double that so far and will have a little more to dump in when I change the oil. These cans are definitely money well spent.
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Update:
Aug. 6, 2011 to Oct. 14, 2011: 79 days 15280 miles to 18114: 2834 miles (total collection of 6062 miles) http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...0-14155010.jpg Can: http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...0-14154942.jpg Bottle: http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...0-14155115.jpg |
I saw the water bottle and ordered one. Can you put the difference before and after the installation of you MPG? Also, Moe's has it marked down $20 right now if anyone is on the fence...
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Easily .5-.75 mpg, hand calculated.
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I haven't noticed any difference in mileage, but I drive like I have multiple personality disorder! :)
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Update:
Oct. 14, 2011 to Jan. 22, 2012: 100 days 18114 to 22040: 3926 miles (total collection of 9988 miles) http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...1-22191912.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...1-22192108.jpg |
tell me that isnt a scotch glass next to the water bottle bahaha thatd be funny
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No, it's not.....it's an empty scotch glass.
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Update:
Aug. 6, 2011 to March 30, 2012: 237 days Total collection of 13040 miles http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...3-30092830.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...3-30092719.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...3-30092809.jpg |
Update (finally):
August 6, 2011 was the original date I started collecting. This was collected on February 6, 2013 for a total time collecting of 549 days. Started collecting when the truck only had 15,280 miles. As of the collection date, the truck has 38,294 for a total mileage during collection of 23,014 miles. http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...ps2645e490.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...ps0aac3395.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...ps632f1907.jpg Damn that's a lot of oil.... |
Damn dude. I haven't even had a chance to cleab out mine one time lol. Put its been parked.
That's a lot of oil man |
Yeah, I know there are some (on other sites) who act like its no big deal because, over 23k miles its really not that much. But hey, why have any in the intake at all, right?
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I need to check mine again.....
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Yeah, I know them "other guys" . Emily said the same thing. It doesn't seem like much but I told her to imagine dumping that whole bottle into the air filter. I would rather it in the catch can than the filter. No matter how insignificant people say the job it's doing is.
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That's a lot of oil! I think I'm going to remove the catch can from the Charger so it's ready to go on the Jeep from day 1...
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I would, especially on that truck.
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Just saw this thread. I'm a believer. Ordering mine right now.
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What I can't figure out is, my 2013 has almost 5,000 miles on it and my oil level is still dead on the full mark.
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The amount collected is very little between changes so it may appear as though its perfect but it may not be.
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This will be my last update as the bottle is now full.
Collection timeline: August 6, 2011 to January 21, 2014: 898 days Mileage span: Began collecting at 15,280 to current 51,931: 36,651 miles http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...psdg6mvqqd.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...psa2yfoq86.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...pseimfbwff.jpg |
Holy crap 36k miles and it's full.. that seems like alot oil.. my poor girl has 59k.. i need to get one of these..
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Yeah, after keeping track of this for so long it will seem odd not to record it at each oil change. I'm glad I added the catch can when I did.
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Wow!
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Yeah, if you haven't installed one yet, you should.
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I love mine
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BT catch can.
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Older Thread But..
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I'm new to the forum but saw this thread and thought i would share what my catch can picked up over 4000 miles. Looks like oil and moisture, kinda freaked me out to think this was going into my intake manifold before i got the catch can.
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